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    • #59870
      Jefe4x4
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      Louis, you need to go to one of the many Chevy/GM truck facebook pages or websites.
      You will get a lot more hits on your woe.
      Yours looks newer than 2017, so there is a Chevy/GM truck site just for you.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #59869
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      David,
      With a 3200 pound camper, if you haven’t done anything yet, I would look into lower stable loads by Torklift.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #59868
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Phil Patterson, I had a hard time posting on here before this week.
      The problem was, I’m too wordy; too many characters.
      The very belated answer to you question is:
      No I don’t think an F-350 SRW or DRW with a 7.3L gas engine and 4.30 gears would be a good thing. My cutoff is the GVWR of the truck, in my SRW case 4100 pounds.
      You’re stuck with a diesel.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #59830
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Walker is also real here. After riding in and driving Bro John’s 350/ALASKAN rig with 3.73’s at length over steep hills and across the fruited plain, I have come to the conclusion the best overall gear ratio for an F-350 SRW SC SB or CC LB that carries a medium weight truck camper (2500-2900 pounds dry weight) is…..
      4.10 or 4.11:1. Bigger size pinion. Sturdier ring gear. You can get lockers and limited slips.
      The only problem is Ford does not currently offer that gear ratio in an F-250-350. I think in some F-450/550’s (maybe) you can get 4.10’s, but their stock ratio is around 4.56-4.88:1.
      Mind you, I still like the 4.30’s with the gasser and my driving style.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #58557
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Some new input about the diff ratios with the 7.3L gasser.
      As above, the 4.30 is just right for me but a couple weeks ago I accompanied my brother John (JR) to Kelso WA to pick up his brand spanking new 10 foot ALASKAN camper to go on his 2022 F-350 SC LB 7.3L gasser.
      I’ll be doing a writeup on here about my findings.
      He chose the 3.73’s as he plans on not leaving his AKan on all the time and using it a s a pickup.
      I drove quite a bit both going to Kelso and the 1K miles back down to CA.
      I can report that the 3.73’s were perfect for his rig and did not cause a lot of downshifting….some, but not much. Bro and I got really good mpg going home; a couple pops better than my similar Ford sled. I attribute this to a much lower wind resistance with the hard top down.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #56679
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Michael,
      I’d be surprised if yo could get one if it’s a gasser.
      Diesel fuel is lower on the distillate scale (Cetane) and is less volatile than gasoline (Octane). Many diesel driving contractors and work truck folks use the spare tanks. I have not heard anyone in our circle using one with a gasser.
      If they are good to go with a gas pickup, I’d be interested, especially living in CA. Since our Ford/Northstar stays married now, we try to only buy gas in Nevada, only an hour+ away.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #55691
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Get the 4.30 rear end for the 7.3 gasser.
      It is perfect with our Northstar camper.
      If you get the 3.73’s, even at freeway speeds you will not be able to use the top 2 or 3 gears without lugging below 1500 rpm unless you are going 85 mph. Maybe the trans will not let you lug down below 1500 rpm.
      I thought the same as the diesel guys above, until I actually owned and had time in the saddle with an F-350 with 7.3 gasser.
      I wrote a long response to both questions, but it disappeared into the ether.
      I found it, but the site says, “Forbidden” and it won’t load for some reason.
      I added it here:
      Brett: I do have a 2020 7.3 gasser Ford F-350 and have some real world experience with it. I’ve been in both camps (diesel and now gas) and from my own diesel experience would have suggested what the above boys are suggesting for gearing if I hadn’t driven the 7.3 gasser. But…..
      Jamie:
      I have the 4.30 gears and would have no other for our load: 2020 N* Laredo SC. Weight (not dry weight) with full water and propane: 2350 pounds. That brings our traveling weight up to about to around 3300 pounds. The payload is over 4000 pounds, so we’re not close to overloading especially with all the suspension goodies. I just ordered another pair of upper overload leaves and will add them into the mix. With only Sway Stops, a factory anti sway bar, Rancho 9K shocks, and 2 upper overload leaves, I submit I’ll be very close to a fine tuned compromise between too much sway and a harsh, gerky ride. Our factory GVW is 11,300 pounds. The empty truck weighs 7215 pounds with that light little gasser engine. A 6.7 Ford diesel engine weighs at least 600 pounds more.
      I find the 4.30’s to be just right for the engine torque and the way this old man bumbles around and drives; namely around 62 mph on the freeway with an egg under my foot on the stupid pedal. If i need instant power, the Godzilla supplies. The engine is right on 1500 rpm in 10th gear at 55 mph. This is the sweet spot for mpg.
      I think you will have to lock out gears 9 and 10 and possibly 8th if you get the 3.73 gears. The transmission may automatically do that for you with 3.73’s. I’ve had plenty of diesels and would have lower numerical gears if I were driving one, like 3.31’s, 3.42’s, or 3.55’s. I did have 3.55’s on my 2001 Dodge Cummins/6 speed manual but changed to 4.10’s when I put 35 inch tires on it.
      Brett: AFA your proposed load with a 3300 pound camper, I think you will be above the payload rating right away if you use the, “add 750 to 1000 pounds of people and stuff” rule. In that case you will need more suspension support than I have to survive, or consider a DRW truck. We have a saying in the TC biz: “No one ever complained about having too much truck.” It’s a perspective thing. Higher rated tires to some with a higher than 4000 pound capacity. Much better shocks. The factory shocks are junk. I dumped my factory Ranchos the first week I had the rig. A big wig sway bar with the 1-5/16’s inch bar. That will give you some backbone.
      If i were you, I would get on FTE (Ford Truck Enthusiasts) facebook page and browse the RV-truck camper section to see what Ardvark and others have done to wrestle a heavier camper.
      Jamie: You would do well to pretty much go the route I did with the 7.3 gasser.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #55671
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      I’ve noticed that on our N* (the same one as Ardvark has) wind is THE determining factor with mileage drop or gain.
      On the way to Quartzsite, and after gassing up at Pahrump NV we got a pretty good tailwind and it was slightly downhill. After 121 miles the lie-o-meter on the truck said 17 mpg. For a 10K pound, loaded truck camper? The proof in the pudding was on the return leg of the trip where we had a headwind and it was slightly uphill.
      11.1 mpg. Our usual overall average is 12.6 mpg.
      I just don’t know how you could isolate or even measure the causative effect of wind or vertical center of gravity besides mpg.
      jefe de nada

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #54042
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      I had the Ford certified Warn 12K hidden winch installed.
      Originally offered only for the Tremor model, but the fitment is the same for the F-350 non Tremor.
      There was a lot of engineering involved with this application.
      Many very sturdy odd shaped brackets.
      A large and long motor that would fit behind the factory bumper.
      A long and narrow drum with cord not wire cable.
      Both wireless and wired controllers.
      This only fits a 2020-2022 Ford F-350, SRW, 4WD pickup and must have the 397 amp alternators and dual batteries.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

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    • #54038
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Harvey,
      This looks good, especially if there is no cab touching under any circumstances.
      Is that strips of stair tread friction tape along the side?
      If you have 1-1/2 inches total between the wheel wells, why not just drop in the vertical mode, 2 foot long, 1×6’s in the spaces between the wheel wells and the camper base just before you hit bottom.
      The other option is to move your centering triangles in a little tighter.
      If you need another 3/8’s inch of altitude and slightly more traction, you might try another bed mat on top of what you have already.
      The only downside is you must be very exacting and be dead center when you lower the box onto the bed. The camper can be slightly pushed side to side by a 2nd person if it is off a little as you lower.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #53208
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Walker,
      You had a leaf spring failure?
      Did a spring snap, or just loose its lift?
      That’s unusual for a new truck.
      I don’t see any reason to go aftermarket springs if you are only carrying the 2350 pound wet Milner. This is exactly the same wet weight as our Northstar Laredo.
      If you do have both springs replaced under warranty, I’d suggest reusing the upper overload leaves stacked/paired and added to the new set. It will be easy for the dealer to do. This is what I would like to do.
      I have had a tough time locating those extra leaves as Ford now only sells the entire spring pack as a unit.
      I have installed a factory anti sway bar and Sway Stops (which i cannot recommend compared to Torklift’s Stable Loads) and am getting very close to nirvana.
      We’re going to the Eastern Sierra Nevada next week in the TC.
      Where do you live in No. Cal? We’re in Nevada City.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #52713
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      This is a good reason to get way out ahead of the contemplated weight of your new camper and truck’s payload rating.
      We have about 1K pounds of headroom with our Northstar/F-350 payload rating.
      Some would say, “get way more truck than you think you will need for your truck camper”.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #52433
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Before we picked up our new Northstar Laredo we had to leave our tailgate at home. All the goods that normally went in the TC were moved into a large waterproof pickup bed vinyl zipper bag and a tailgate net which attached to 4 footman’s loops at the rear of the truck. Large 1k pound ratchet straps were criss crossed over the bag. We drove 1600 miles this way from N. CA. to IA.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

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    • #51863
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      That vent cover is a big one, something like 22×22 inches. It is not listed on the internet as available. We had a recent mishap while Jeanie was driving with a low overhang at a motel that took out the front cover of which you speak and one of the 160 watt solar panels.
      A local RV shop replaced all the broken parts, and the solar panel was replaced by a 170w panel bringing us up to 330w of solar (160170w), plenty enough for our power needs without a generator.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #51759
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      beanstelk,
      Your depiction of diesel engines is about 20 years too late.
      Plus, Yanmar diesel tractor and boat engines and parts, cheap as they are, cannot be used in trucks.
      I had several low maintenance diesels 1983-2001, and our 2007 Kioti diesel tractor which just ducks the DEF requirement. They fit your description very well.
      But not the current crop.
      Diesels produced for trucks after about 2006 or 07 have myriad CARB hurdles and clabbed-on tanks, plumbing, hardware, and additives to pass smog muster.
      There is and was an on going ever increasing amount of maintenance, some of it very expensive in diesels built after 2006.
      A major service to a Ford 6.7 diesel can cost more, much more than a brand new 7.3L Ford V-8 gasser replacement engine.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #51183
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Ken,
      The very best on vehicle tire repair kit is the Safety Seal kit.
      You don’t even have to remove the wheel, just jack it off the ground.
      It comes with 50 plugs and a variety of heavy duty tools and applicators.
      It’s the adhesive on the ‘caterpillar cord’ that makes the Safety Seal work. I’ve used up to 17 plugs in a 3 inch torn sidewall on a brand new tire, and it held air for a couple days until we could get back to civilization and replace the tire.
      I have a kit in each of our 4, 4WD’s, and both a high bucks, high duty cycle, high volume 12v compressor and a 30 pound CO2 tank with the freeze proof hardware and hoses at the ready, depending on the need. These are left over from my hard core jeeping days and we use the same self help technique with the TC.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #51007
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      UPDATE:
      We purchased and installed the Wilson Home cell phone signal booster (#470144 for $549.98) as outlined above with the very focused stationary antenna and got very good reception and speed through our phone’s hotspot,unlike the previous experience with HughesNet. For the past decade, Hughes was all that was available in our area. Our carrier is AT&T with newer iPhones.
      The news hit about the prepaid, “Great Deal” from AT&T.
      This is really big news for TC and RV folks who spend a lot of time on the road or in the boondocks.
      The offer was $55 per month for 100GB’s of data for your computer or tablet, or
      $75 per month for unlimited GB’s of data. We opted for the unlimited.
      You must buy or lease Netgear’s Nighthawk LTE Mobile hotspot router as the receiver indoors.
      Let’s compare Hughes speed to AT&T’s through the Nighthawk.
      Hughes:
      ping: 856ms
      down: 0.45 mbps
      up: 0.63
      AT&T with home cell booster and Nighthawk:
      ping: 21ms
      down: 23.01 mbps
      up: 3.58
      The great part is the Nighthawk is portable, battery powered, and compact.
      It’s a shoe-in for the road.
      After our trip to NV,ID,MT, and WYO we’ll see if we get the Wilson We Boost Drive-X or the Wilson Drive Reach RV multi directional antenna, or maybe the Mimo Netgear antenna for the mobile modem.
      We also got unlimited data GB’s for each of our phones.
      So, I’m hopeful we won’t be cut off from ciberspace any more.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #50904
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Mike,
      Gigabytes of data.
      100 GB per month for $55,
      and portable. this is great news for RV’ers.

      HughesNet, the only option for us at the time, was $112 for 30GB and simply terrible latency (ping) and slow loading.

      The Nighthawk goes straight from the cell tower through the NH to your device leaving the cell phone out of the picture.
      The Nighthawk Hotspot Router does all the work and is battery operated.
      It is a cell phone hotspot that you cannot use as a phone.

      This only works with AT&T cell service….so far.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #50885
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      I should let you know that the new Ford 10 speed trans (10R140) has hit a speed bump. It is not on a recall but has a known problem (one of the planetary gears) in units sold between certain dates.
      My F-350 is not within the inclusive dates, so i should be O.K.
      The Chevy version of this 10 speed is also having some teething problems in this regard.
      This is not unusual for a new product to have a “period of adjustment”. The good news is Ford has a good track record of standing behind their product.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #50854
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      The state of communications for rural and on the road people is changing quickly.
      Yesterday, our cell phone provider, AT&T quietly announced its, “Great Deal Plan” offering 100 GB of data for $55 per month. You must purchase the Netgear Nighthawk LTE mobile hotspot (dedicated internet box) router for an extra $8.34/mo.

      This follows our installation of Wilson’s Cell Phone Booster for our home on Sunday.
      The hotspotting of our phones to our computers is ridiculously faster than HughesNet’s $112/mo. slow WiFi. Hughes is going to take a giant hit.

      So, I cancelled HughesNet today.

      I was ready to order Wilson’s Drivereach RV (and hardwire #850022 DC/DC adapter) when the news broke about the “Great Deal”. What is so great about it for us RV types? Portability. The Nighthawk will go right into the camper so I can continue to work with enough reception whether at home or on the road.

      So the question remains: Will the Nighthawk be enough in the boonies?
      We’ll take this one step at a time. If it’s not enough, I’ll continue to order Wilson’s Drivereach RV.
      Yes, the state of the art of communications is changing faster than we can keep up.
      When I was in College in the early 1960’s, I attended a speech presented by the legendary anthropologist, Margaret Mead.
      She said,”The ever increasing speed in the world of technology is changing faster than we can comprehend or keep up with.”
      So it has come to pass; over and over again.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #50083
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      This is an interesting idea.
      Does it fit inside the flange on the top side front of the truck bed? That would add a couple inches of clearance.
      Our new Ford F-350’s 3 inch longer bed than our old Dodge demands that we locate the N*Laredo about 4 inches to the rear so as not to damage the tail lights.
      I could not find any definitive auto make application table.
      If the tank is full it will move the center of gravity of the camper box forward- a good thing.
      A 30 gallon tank would be ideal.
      Now, would it work for a gasoline engine?
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #49892
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Chris,
      The time honored way to upgrade your suspension is by degrees, as every rig has a little different makeup of springs/coil spring rate/helper springs/air bags/tires/wheels/shocks/double shocks/anti sway bars/loaded camper weight/center of gravity.
      Everything in this regard is a tradeoff. You can get rid of sway but if you go too far with air bags @ 90 pounds; a thick anti sway bar; and E rated tires at full inflation you may not like the loaded ride.
      If changing things, by degrees, you can measure how much and if the change is going in the right direction.

      Do go for the easy solutions first.

      I’ve found that with the load on, keeping all tires @ the rated maximum cold inflation will save you gas and have the bonus of less squirm and sway on the highway. That’s loaded.

      If on dirt, or washboard, or gravel for a couple days, take the pressure down (read Mike’s insightful table of deflation) and buy a high use time, 12v clamp on compressor.

      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #49863
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Harvey,
      My 4″ foam block is also deforming.
      But that’s O.K. since I now think 2.5-3″ of lift would be enough.
      Why? The truck frame is a lot more stiff than earlier Fords.
      The rooftop antennas are at the rear, so any porpoising clearance would affect the front of the cab more and the rear less.
      What you can do is buy a 4×8 sheet of 1/2 inch outdoor plywood; cut in half the long way and spread it out against the wheel wells with an MT slot down the center and use leftover pieces cut to be spacers/keys in the slots. Maybe finally add an extra thin rubber mat and lower the camper on.
      All this fiddling is on going.
      There are lots of variables, not the least of which is how much off road the operator does.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #49817
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Phil, the 7.3L Ford gasser did not come out until Jan/2020 or so.
      The Ute Worker must have been driving a Ford 6.2L gasser.
      *************************
      Today, Mike has in his inbox the final edit of the spiel i presented at the Quarzsite II Truck Camper Adventure Rally.
      It’s called,
      GAS or DIESEL: What to consider.
      This is a hot button issue and I’m anxious to see what reactions we get when folks are confronted with the mountain of info I researched for the piece.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #49291
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Rob and Bev,
      Without a way to PM you on here, i’m hamstrung with a way to send you the whole piece: GAS or Diesel; CONSIDERATIONS.
      and there is a lot to consider.
      I survey the big gasser V-8’s by Ford, GM, and Chrysler/Fiat.
      In a nutshell the best version for what you need is the 7.3L Ford Gas/10 speed, but I need more information. Next down the line is the GM 6.6L gasser/10 speed. Next is the Ford 6.2L gasser/10 speed, for reasons I talk about in the piece. Bringing up the rear is the Chrysler/Fiat 6.4L Hemi V-8 with it’s miniscule 100 pound feet of torque @ 1600 rpm.

      if you could send your email address to:
      [email protected] (Put the two fours into just numbers like listed under my picture) I’m hoping this eliminates any nefarious contact. Your email will remain hidden.
      I will forward you the 10 page article.
      It has a lot of info, but you can digest it at your leisure.
      regards, as always, jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #49275
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Jeanie and I had our 1.5 year old combo CO/propane detector go off every night around 3 A.M. during the 2021 TCA Rally last week. The initial problem was a prop leak at the tank valve. But I’m still wondering how the prop smell got out of a sealed exterior cabinet and down to the floor of the camper as we smelled no gas inside, only outside. It may have travelled through the closed and sealed fresh water inlet. How, i don’t know. We drove the 6 miles to Quartzsite and replaced the tank.
      Same problem reappeared during the next night so i ripped the cover off and tripped the test button.
      Subsequent camping along the Bradshaw Trail we had no more detector going off.
      There seems to always be some mystery behind the detector going off at odd times.
      I was amused at the flimsy instructions when the CO/prop detector alarm goes off.
      1. vacate the RV. (@ 3 A.M.?)
      2. contact a qualified technician to fix it. (Steve, where are you?)

      In searching the internet for answers we ran across this funny gem.
      A couple in their RV had their CO alarm go off at odd times and could not find the reason why. They eventually found the culprit; their large and very gaseous pooch used to lay on the floor right in front of the detector and squeeze off a pop of methane tripping the detector.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #49251
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Morgan,
      Your dilemma is universal.
      There is a lot to consider.
      Below is a rough outline of the 55 minute spiel I gave at the 2021 TCA Rally last week in Quartzsite AZ.

      The final version is 10 pages fleshed out with supporting info and commentary, and will eventually show up as a piece on this website.

      I wish there was a way to PM you as I could send you the finished product.

      GAS or DIESEL: CONSIDERATIONS

      Fuel cost.
      Fuel availability
      Fuel tank size
      Running out of fuel
      Diesel Penalty at purchase
      Gas Penalty at purchase
      Your age and how it affects your purchase
      How long will you own the truck?
      State fuel taxes
      Power and Torque:

      “Hands down the diesel, warts and all, has the advantage here. In my survey of owners, the dividing line between success with a diesel or gas engine gravitates to the weight of 15K pounds. Above that GVWR or GVWR of a trailer or 5th wheel, the diesel is king.
      Below 15K pounds, a gas engine like the 7.3L Ford, GM 6.6 gas each with a new 10 speed trans, or Fiat/Chrysler 6.4L Hemi will handle whatever you’ve got, with the Fiat/Chrysler being the least capable.”

      MPG
      MILES OF TRAVEL EXPECTED
      ENGINE WEIGHT and effect on payload
      COST OF MAINTENANCE and ADDITIVES
      RELIABILITY
      LONGEVITY
      SPEED you travel
      TERRAIN: high altitudes? Flat or mountainous?
      BREAKDOWNS
      SHORT TRIPS effect on gas vs. diesel
      RESALE VALUE

      Here is a comparo of gas and diesel engine specs:
      The important discovery here is how only the Ford 7.3L gasser retains most of its torque as the rpm’s drop. The GM is next, with the Fiat/Chrysler 6.4L falling off the torque chart.

      2020 Chevrolet 6.6L gas V-8 engine with direct injection,
      rated at 401 HP @ 5200 rpm
      Torque peak 464 @ 4000 rpm falling to 345 @ 1600 rpm

      2020 Duramax turbo diesel L5P engine,
      rated 445 HP @ 2800 rpm. and dropping going up.
      rated 910 TQ @ 1600 rpm. and dropping going up.

      2020 RAM Hemi 6.4L gas truck engine,
      rated 410 HP @5600 rpm
      rated 429 TQ @4000 rpm dropping like a rock to 100 #feet @1600 rpm.

      2020 Cummins 6.7L H.O. turbo diesel ISB engine,
      rated 400 HP @ 2800 rpm
      rated 1000 TQ @ 1800 rpm

      our retiring sled:
      2001 Cummins 5.9L H.O. turbo diesel engine, 6-speed manual
      rated 245 HP @ 2400 rpm
      rated 505 lb-ft TQ @ 1600 rpm
      with big torque all the way down to idle.

      Brother John’s sled:
      1999 Ford 7.3L Powerstroke turbo diesel engine, 6-speed manual
      rated 235 HP @ 2700 rpm
      rated 500 TQ @ 1600 rpm

      Ford 7.3L gas V8
      rated 430 HP @ 5500 rpm
      rated 475 lb. ft. @ 4000 rpm
      dropping to 405 TQ @ 1500 rpm
      looking at the torque curve it barely drops @ 1500 rpm

      Ford 6.2L gas V8
      rated 385 HP @ 5750 rpm
      rated 430 lb.-ft. @ 3800 rpm dropping to 200 lb. ft. @ 1500 rpm

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #49190
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Rob and Beverly,
      The 4580# rating is for a bone stock F-350 with NO extras
      4320# is with some more stuff added
      4060 is my printed payload. I have a lot of extras like 5th wheel hitch; trailer hitch; many electrical and electronic upgrades with an inverter.
      Note above all the weight of the stuff i removed to load on our Northstar Laredo.
      Understand that the diesel option puts about 600 pounds more on the front axle and reduces the payload by about…..600 pounds.
      We just returned from the 2021 TCA Rally and put 1500 miles on our new sled. Going south with the wind @ 65 mph mostly on freeways netted us 13.5 mpg with our 10K pound loaded TC over 688 miles.
      However, the trip back north netted us only 11.2 mpg as we had a continuous 40-50 mph desert headwind, slightly off straight, the worst case scenario, and had hours of detours through city streets with signals every block, basically the worst.
      Also, we did the Bradshaw trail, and the diesels outperformed the gasser in mpg while in slow-mode.
      I’ll be publishing a piece on here entitled: GAS or DIESEL: CONSIDERATIONS. In it I review the yeas and nays of each.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #48931
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Squish,
      The Cooper Discoverer AT3-XLT tires have come a long way in the 20 years since you had yours go south. I’ve had a couple sets of them for my TC and for our 2011 Grand Cherokee.
      When we first started using them in 2012, they were very quiet until you got down to the last 25% of tread, at which time they began to sing in a poco a poco crescendo.
      I think they had a lot of complaints about that.
      The next generation of Disco AT3-XLT’s solved that problem.
      I’ve had one flat, a blowout on our TC on a jeep trail in the Inyo mountains in CA. A sharp rock punched a 3 inch gash right through the sidewall with a big pop and hiss, even heard over the noise that our CTD puts out. We were running them @ 28 pounds and the sidewalls were particularly exposed. So, operator error.
      The Discos have become the favored tire of rough road, expedition type campers. They are in a class by themselves with now many imitators barking at their success.
      When the factory 32.2 inch Goodyear LT275/70R18 OWL A/T 3640 pound rated tires wear out, which by all accounts shouldn’t be long, we’ll install Cooper XLT AT3 LT 285/75R18’s. They’re 34.49 inches in diameter with a 4080 pound load rating effectively dropping our final drive ratio from 4.30 to 4.10 and increasing the sidewall height for lowering the pressure on sand.
      Of all the different tires we’ve had on our Dodge Cummins (185K miles worth) hauling our truck camper, the Discos are the best all round tire for what we do, are quiet and deliver very good extended tread life, and good traction on a variety of surfaces.
      Part of that is because the design has large lug area and small voids.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #48465
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Stan,
      Looking at your AF 1150 and all your extras, I would not stray too far off into the sand. The problem here is weight and dually’s. Heavy dually’s typically don’t do well in deep sand or any sand for that matter. It takes a long time to deflate six tires down to a usable pressure for sand. The pressure for duals is 5 or so pounds higher than for a single rear wheel. If you really want to get well off into the sand, be sure to have a great way to re inflate the tires. dually’s typically are narrow on a narrow rim without much sidewall for deflating. Purchase the best, most expensive 100% duty cycle 12volt high volume portable air compressor made for big rigs. Take 2 or 3 high quality tire pressure gauges (they are notoriously inaccurate) and the final thing is to take a friend with a similar weight TC along with you that has a lot of vehicle recovery experience; and a 20K tow strap (no chain) and D rings to attach to whatever recovery attachment points you have.You really need secure hooks or points for recovery. A lighter weight ‘friend’ will not do.
      I’ve owned 13, 4WD’s over time; half of them with a winch; many with full locking diffs; wide rims for deflating, over sized tires, big clearance and used my winches hundreds of times for extractions. I took that experience and applied it to a TC which weighs twice as much as all my Jeeps, Scouts, and Land Cruisers.
      Some who insist on taking a dually on sand will put a 1/2″ spacer between the rear wheels to allow the duals to run at a lower pressure. It takes a while to heat up duals, even when they are touching.
      Finally, if you insist, go out and make your own mistakes and worry through a way out of them….with that same sized friend’s rig with a winch and sand travel moxey. This was my 1st 4WD campmobile in 1967. 1949 Willys Utility Wagon with a Chevy V-8 and my first springs over axle attempt. The 2nd is my 1982 CJ-8.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

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    • #48438
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Keith,
      What a story! Jeanie and I are very sorry you lost your wife.
      In manus tuas, Domine, commendo spiritum meum

      (a moment of silence here)

      Your camper story is unusual as the N* owner’s page on facebook has very few complaints, compared to any other manufacturer. You were just unlucky.
      We cannot find anything we don’t like about our N* Laredo SC.
      Maybe it’s because ours is a one piece hardside with few moving parts.

      My brother John has a 2002 pop up 9.5 OUTFITTER!(the Pop-up Palace) that has had a lot of woes. Major systems like the buried and leaking propane lines, 3-way fridge, and water heater, have proved to be eternal problems for him. I think he’s on his 3rd fridge, and can never keep his fridge running on propane.
      So, you’re not alone in having problems, but relatively alone having problems with a Northstar.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #48184
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Mike’s tire pressure numbers are a nice average to go by.
      I get even more anal about tire pressure using a long built up experience in sand running. How tall is your sidewall? The taller the better for deflating.
      That’s why i still ran 16 inch wheels on my 2001 Dodge Cummins: lots of sidewall for deflating. It’s all a feel of the surface you are going to negotiate; the weight of your TC; how hot the day is; how good your air-up device is; how wide your rims are. Why it that? There is sand and there is sand. I’ve tried over the years to take a measure of how soft and/or bottomless the sand is.
      Tires now-o-days are very tough compared to tires 30 years ago.It’s very difficult to injure them.
      I’ve driven all day in our old Lance/Dodge setup with 10 inch wide super single steel rims on the rear and 7.5 in. wide stock steels on the front.
      front tire pressure: 28 pounds
      rear tire pressure: 20 pounds
      Why the discrepancy? The wider your rim is the less actual air pressure you can use for the same, “squat” or sidewall bulge. Also, when using very stiff truck tires, sometimes you have to go even lower. You just don’t want to pinch the sidewall on a rock.
      I’m not sure yet how low to go on our new Ford’s stock 18×8 inch wheels. I suspect a good trail running pressure is: 28 front/30 rear. I’ll be able to tell once we start letting air out at the trailhead of El Camino del Diablo.
      You just need to keep your eye (hand) on how hot the tires become. That means driving slower than you think to keep the temp down.
      Hands on experience is better than anything I could contribute.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #48009
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Harvey,
      On Monday Mike will publish my article on the N*camper/Ram truck to Ford truck swap.
      I see George has the same late model Ford Super Duty with approximately the same final elevation but with a lot more weight and no R-value.

      After doing the 4″ thick Blue Board, because of the lack of porpoising I really only need 3″ of elevation lift to clear the funky antennas.
      I’m also thinking of going to HappiJac tie downs for the rear only to get more departure angle clearance.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #48006
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      You don’t need r.boards. It’s kind of a UK thing; a badge for folks with no sand technique.
      What you need is a lot of experience taking your TC on the dunes
      and lowering the pressure on your tires to get the needed floatation; and a surefire way to get them back up.
      And the right size wheels and tires for sand help a lot.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

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    • #47388
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Phil,
      The truck weighs 7243 pounds with all the 5-er and towing parts.
      The camper weighs 2350 pounds.
      For TC travel, subtract the tailgate weight, about 60 pounds.
      X-out the powered jacks, about 200 pounds.
      The tie downs weigh about 40 pounds.
      Add around 600 pounds of people and stuff.
      The tally comes to 9973 pounds.
      The camper loaded,which includes 2 people is around 3000 pounds.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #47254
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Dj,
      Have the dealer run you a “Detailed Vehicle Specification – (17 digit truck serial number just above the bar code on the window sticker) It’s about 10 pages of what the truck has, and what is doesn’t have, which are called,’less’. For instance, the running boards-platform are stock designation: BLBAQ. THE 18X8 CAST ALUMINUM-TYPE 1 wheels are D2UBE. It’s Fordspeak for that very truck’s inventory of parts.

      AFAIK, this exact truck, the 7.3 Godzilla gas V-8 only comes with either 3.55’s or 4.30’s. I’m really loving the 10 speed and have already glommed on to the manual shifting part on really steep hills, up and downhill as there is more engine braking from this gasser than my old Cummins 5.9L with 6 speed.

      The Ford 6.2L gas V-8 and 6.7L diesel get the 3.73.

      We just got back from a camping trip to Death Valley with lots of 4WD, low range, a little E-locking rr diff. The over all mpg from about 1K miles on the clock to 1500 miles was 12.3 mpg. Not bad considering during that time we had 16K feet of altitude gain and loss and a few sections @ 9% grade for 20 miles. One stretch from Bishop to Lone Pine ( mostly flat) got us an unbelievable 14.0 mpg. That’s with the camper on and loaded up.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #46875
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Hal,
      Is your ride a dually? I have an F-350 SRW.
      I ordered and received a Big Wig and it was made for a dually so i sent it back. Their website was not very clear about that.
      I’m trying Super Springs Sway Stops for a change since they don’t touch the overload spring when the truck is MT. I’ve also ordered Rancho 9K XL shocks again.
      Currently we have a little sway but the camper is not loaded yet so not much compression on the overload spring. We’ll see with another 600 pounds or so.
      I’m thinking an anti sway bar does less for you than an extra leaf in the pack; Rancho 9K’s, rear only; and the blocks that bring your overload spring into play sooner; i.e. Stable Loads or Sway Stops.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #46873
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      This is exactly the 7-pin to 7-pin wiring adapter I used on my 2020 Ford F-350 gasser to Northstar hookup.
      It bypasses the truck’s lamp-out sensor and does not trigger any warnings or hyper flashing.
      It now works as advertised.
      jefe

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #46751
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Harvey,
      The rigid foam board i used is by Dow. It’s called Dow Blue Board, 4″x4’x8′. It is not cheap. $187.05 out the door for two 4×8 foot blocks. It was very hard to find.
      Do you need a block? i can supply as i have the one left i can sell for $75.
      It depends on where you live. By the looks of the damp fir trees you must be in the NW.
      You need a foam bumper at the front bulkhead of the bed. 3 inches would be ideal, but I used 4″ from a cutoff piece of the 4×8 glued on top of the foam in front.

      The other brand is Foamular 250 by Owens Corning that can be had at Home Depot. But beware it’s only 2 inches thick and doesn’t have the R-value or rigidity of the 4 inch.

      I used my form fitting thin rubber bed mat under the foam.
      We leave for Death Valley next week so I’ll report when we return.
      Are you going to the Feb. Rally?

      Take a look at the cab clearance and back set above.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

    • #46748
      Jefe4x4
      Moderator

      Trimmed pass side tie downs. Minimum clearance is 1-1/2 inches.

      2020 Ford F-350 XLT FX4 4WD SRW SB SC 7.3L Godzilla Gas TorqShift 10R140 397 amps dual Alt dual batts Frnt Dana 60; Rr Dana M275 E-locker 4.30's 4580/4320/4066# payload 7243# curb wt. 11,300# GVWR 5-er prepped. 2020 Northstar Laredo SC, 12v compressor fridge, cassette, 320w Solar sub zero insulation.

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