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- March 15, 2019 at 22:17 #29753
john.
Participant2020 Ford F350 – XLT or Lariat / options guidance?
Hi all
First time pickup buyer. We will custom order a 2020 Ford F350 – XLT or Lariat
A Hallmark pop up camper will be in it 99.999 % of the time. Currently learning about what options / packages we want.A few questions to help guide me…
Do I care about Fog Lamps? (does anyone ever use them?)
Do we care about Pedals: Power Adjustable…?
My wife and I share driving when going camping.
Do the driver memories recall the Power Pedals?Do we need to be Lariat to get power seats and power seat memories? I can’t figure this out.
I didn’t see heated and cooled seats listed anywhere on Lariat specs…. do we need to go higher to get heated and cooled seats? 🙁
Do we want to get the 4.3 Electronic Locking Axle?
I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo…?If we move to the midwest (a possibility) … would we want the remote start option, so we can warm up the F350 before getting in it?
How hard is it to wire in external lights, light bars, etc to the Ford optional Outfitter Switches?
with the vehicle (below) configured as we like, Ford offers either LT275/70R x 18E BSW A/T 4X4 tires
or for an extra $290, I could get LT275/70R x 18E OWL A/T tires.
what tires should i get?
I would MUCH rather have the tires come from Ford, from the start, and not have to change them out, and sell the stock tires.By the way – we always use our cell phones for Navigation (Waze or Google Nav) so we have no use for a built in NAV. Any way to somehow NOT get it, to save $?
On our 8 foot bed, with a 9.5 foot Hallmark – the Ford Reverse Sensing System – will it work with 18” overhang of Hallmark, and also the optional Hallmark Storage bins & rear bumper?
* * * * * For what it is worth – this is the type of pickup + options we are looking at: * * *
F-350 – 2020. Custom ordered.
Crew Cab (4 real doors, most space)
6.2L gas
176” Wheelbase (max)
8 foot bed.
4×4
Single Rear Wheel (SRW)4.3 Electronic Locking Axle (I believe it is much better for climbing mountains with the 2,500+ truck camper on the back, plus cargo)
FX4 Off Road Package (comes with Skid Plates : Transfer Case and Fuel Tank)
Snow Plow / Camper Package.
11,400 GVWR package (or whatever is max GVWR)
Rear Window – privacy glass.
Medium Duty Battery (a second battery)
Alternator Extra Extra HeavyDuty
LED Roof Marker/Clearance Lamps
Front 40/20/40 Split Bench Seats (not front console) so driver can exit passenger side if need be. (this is important to us with our current narrow driveway)Inflatable Rear Outboard Safety Belts (Crew Cab®) – for our daughter.
Cruise Control
Power Equipment Power Door Locks and Windows
Steering Wheel Audio Controls Tilt/Telescoping Steering Wheel
48 Gallon Fuel Tank – 176″ Wheelbase Integrated Trailer Brake Controller Trailer Hitch Receiver – 2.5″ Built Ford Tough® Trailer Hitch Receiver (SRW)
Hill descent would be very nice. A part of tow package I believe.stuff John REALLY wants:
Adaptive Cruise Control (Lariat I think? Unsure)
Platform Running Boards (best if Ford does them. Less hassle, and not “modified” $445 2019.)
SYNC® 3 for Apple Car Playhave been advised to get:
Upfitter Switches $165 in 2019Thanks!
John
- March 18, 2019 at 14:09 #29821
Jeff Sherman
ParticipantJohn,
I ordered a 2016 F350 XLT SRW 4×4 short bed supercab. I can’t advise you on the more personal choices nor can I address some of the newer electronics. But a couple of choices I made may be pertinent.
Your tire choice between the BSW vs OWL mostly centers around the lettering. Just personal choice. Both tires are same size and rating and A/T. Unless the black sidewall tires that you say are “4×4” have a more aggressive A/T tread which would make them noisier on the highway vs the white lettering tires. If the OWL tires truly do not have a “4×4” designation, then maybe they are quieter. But maybe you want a more aggressive tread and don’t care about the highway noise. But check – it actually sounds like they might be the same tires except for the lettering – if so, I can’t see paying extra to advertise for the tire manufacturer.
Not a Ford option but aftermarket: Since I am often a long way from where a flat tire can be fixed and might be driving on my spare for hundreds of miles, I did not want an unrotated, brand new spare ever being put on the truck with older and therefore slightly smaller, tires. So I bought an aluminum wheel from HubCapHeaven that matched the OEM 18″ aluminum wheel exactly, put a TPMS sensor on it, and mounted the spare on that. Now I do a five way tire rotation, including the spare, and will always know whatever tire ends up as the spare will be same “size” as any of the other tires on the four corners. Downside is I have to buy a set of five at replacement time. But the upside is my five tires last 25% longer than a set of four.
The electronic locking axle is very helpful if you get stuck a long way from anywhere. I ordered my Ford with the 3.73 electronic locker because I often have to drive on highways. The 4.30 will obviously help in many respects on rough terrain and hills, but will be slower and have poorer mileage on the highway. But really, it’s what you want for climbing hills and rough terrain. Your choice.
I did not order the skid plate package as I am weight conscience with my rig but with a pop up it is likely not an issue. If the weight is not a concern, get them for peace of mind.
Not sure it was on your list, but the cab steps I got from Ford were the composite type. The others are made of steel and no matter how nicely the chrome looks on the show room floor, the underside of them gets raked with gravel, mud, sand, water no matter how good your front mud flaps are. Then the steps rust from below. IMO, the composite ones are better because of it.
I would get the camper package, as did I. The camper package will add the rear stabilizer bar which, although not as heavy as the Hellwig sway bar, it has suited me fine. If you don’t order the package, you are likely going to want to install the Hellwig or similar sway bar. Or if you know you prefer the Hellwig, then don’t order the camper package to avoid paying for something you will be removing. But in the Ford camper package literature they make it sound like the camper package is required to get the “slide in camper certification”.
But I would not get the snowplow package unless you really are going to put a plow on it. If you order it, I would bet you might end up with a front end that is too stiff. The camper does not add that much weight to the front as does a cantilevered snow plow. And the Camper Package will max out the front springs for a camper unless already selected by other options. But the snow plow front springs are something else all together.
Jeff
- March 18, 2019 at 15:41 #29822
ardvark
ParticipantThe OP posted his questions in another forum and I responded there earlier. I would note I do have the plough springs on the front (bought the truck used so did not order them myself). In my opinion they are way too stiff unless your are going to use a plough. They only make bump steer worse when my truck is unloaded. They do not do as badly when the camper is riding along, but I would not order them.
My two cents!
Steve and Andra
2012 F350 6.2 gasser SRW LB
Fab Fours front and rear in case we run into a rhino
2019 Northstar Laredo SC - March 18, 2019 at 18:17 #29823
jimc
ParticipantI have the 2017 F350, and the power extend / foldable mirrors were not an option until the XLT (or higher) package. The reverse camera is in the tailgate. Once you remove it, you have no rear camera, so not reverse guidance system. I also lost the collision avoidance because the overhang of my Northstar 950 blocked the sensors.
- March 18, 2019 at 22:16 #29824
john.
ParticipantJohn,
I ordered a 2016 F350 XLT SRW 4×4 short bed supercab. I can’t advise you on the more personal choices nor can I address some of the newer electronics. But a couple of choices I made may be pertinent.
Your tire choice between the BSW vs OWL mostly centers around the lettering. Just personal choice. Both tires are same size and rating and A/T. Unless the black sidewall tires that you say are “4×4” have a more aggressive A/T tread which would make them noisier on the highway vs the white lettering tires. If the OWL tires truly do not have a “4×4” designation, then maybe they are quieter. But maybe you want a more aggressive tread and don’t care about the highway noise. But check – it actually sounds like they might be the same tires except for the lettering – if so, I can’t see paying extra to advertise for the tire manufacturer.
Not a Ford option but aftermarket: Since I am often a long way from where a flat tire can be fixed and might be driving on my spare for hundreds of miles, I did not want an unrotated, brand new spare ever being put on the truck with older and therefore slightly smaller, tires. So I bought an aluminum wheel from HubCapHeaven that matched the OEM 18″ aluminum wheel exactly, put a TPMS sensor on it, and mounted the spare on that. Now I do a five way tire rotation, including the spare, and will always know whatever tire ends up as the spare will be same “size” as any of the other tires on the four corners. Downside is I have to buy a set of five at replacement time. But the upside is my five tires last 25% longer than a set of four.
The electronic locking axle is very helpful if you get stuck a long way from anywhere. I ordered my Ford with the 3.73 electronic locker because I often have to drive on highways. The 4.30 will obviously help in many respects on rough terrain and hills, but will be slower and have poorer mileage on the highway. But really, it’s what you want for climbing hills and rough terrain. Your choice.
I did not order the skid plate package as I am weight conscience with my rig but with a pop up it is likely not an issue. If the weight is not a concern, get them for peace of mind.
Not sure it was on your list, but the cab steps I got from Ford were the composite type. The others are made of steel and no matter how nicely the chrome looks on the show room floor, the underside of them gets raked with gravel, mud, sand, water no matter how good your front mud flaps are. Then the steps rust from below. IMO, the composite ones are better because of it.
I would get the camper package, as did I. The camper package will add the rear stabilizer bar which, although not as heavy as the Hellwig sway bar, it has suited me fine. If you don’t order the package, you are likely going to want to install the Hellwig or similar sway bar. Or if you know you prefer the Hellwig, then don’t order the camper package to avoid paying for something you will be removing. But in the Ford camper package literature they make it sound like the camper package is required to get the “slide in camper certification”.
But I would not get the snowplow package unless you really are going to put a plow on it. If you order it, I would bet you might end up with a front end that is too stiff. The camper does not add that much weight to the front as does a cantilevered snow plow. And the Camper Package will max out the front springs for a camper unless already selected by other options. But the snow plow front springs are something else all together.
Jeffthanks much Jeff for all the good info. 🙂
J. - March 18, 2019 at 22:19 #29825
john.
ParticipantI have the 2017 F350, and the power extend / foldable mirrors were not an option until the XLT (or higher) package. The reverse camera is in the tailgate. Once you remove it, you have no rear camera, so not reverse guidance system. I also lost the collision avoidance because the overhang of my Northstar 950 blocked the sensors.
It is my understanding that it is easy to mount a new rear camera near the license plate, down low, and simply plug it into the plug.
- March 21, 2019 at 13:05 #29901
Tom MacCallum
ParticipantWe bought a slightly used ’15 F-350 4×4 XLT CCLB 6.7. Since yours a gas engine, Jeff and Advaark are prolly correct in saying to avoid the snow plow option. With the diesel engine, I had the 6000 lb. springs installed and feel they should be standard on diesel engine F-350. I don’t feel it rides any harsher than the 5600 lb. springs that were on it. With the camper on, at the CAT scale we had 5100 lbs on the front axle. We’re adding a after market bumper and winch, so that was the reason I went to the higher capacity springs.
I would definitely get the Upfitter switches. I installed them myself and they’re a pita to install the wiring harness, but relatively easy to hook up lights and things near the driver’s side firewall if you have smaller hands. The ’20 trucks may be easier to get to the wires in the engine bay.
We have the 3.31 rear with the electronic locking diff. Even at max GVW, it seems to pull find and climb hills w/o a problem. Do the gas engine trucks get the 10-speed tranny? I’d love to drive one just to see how it handles. The 4.30 is too low IMO unless you’re going to a much larger tire. Like a 37″ or something. Just plan on some decent tires down the road. We just bought Nitto Ridge Grapplers. Haven’t mounted them yet, but the Toyo Open Country AT II were pretty disappointing this winter.
I’m with Jeff on the plastic step boards. They help protect body from rocks. 48 gallon tank on the new trucks. Nice!
I wish we had the camper package. I installed a Helwig sway bar. Huge difference. I also installed Airlift air bags.
As far as the FX4 package, on Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum, IIRC the conclusion of folks that had the package was that the Rancho shocks wore out very quickly. Might want to save that money for some good after market shocks. We put 5100 Bilstiens on ours.
Anyway….enjoy the new truck
- March 21, 2019 at 13:29 #29907
Dumb Mick
ParticipantThe FX4 package isn’t much and you do get better shocks and skid plates.
Definitely get the Lariat – the heated and cooled seats are NICE! The
rest of the truck is just icing. ?It’s good to be a n00b - so I can aspire to be just stoopid.
Monrovia, CA
- March 22, 2019 at 11:17 #29935
john.
ParticipantHi all – a related question:
If a city has a maximum curb weight (as defined in the city’s MOTOR VEHICLE REGULATIONS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS) of 8,000 lbs wet
How will I stand with a current Ford F350, biggest longest version, with an approx 2,500 lb (wet) Pop Up camper – always on board. Daily driver.
In other words – how would my rig relate to an 8,000 curb weight, the limit for residential vehicles in tat city?
Also in other words – would the (always mounted, daily driver) pop up camper’s weight count towards my curb weight? (in the eyes of the city)
the exact wording in bylaw is :
Any motor vehicle having a curb weight of eight thousand (8,000) pounds or greater. For the purposes of this Section, “curb weight” is defined as the weight of a motor vehicle with standard equipment, fuel, oil, and coolant;
thanks! 🙂
- March 22, 2019 at 22:52 #29936
Dumb Mick
ParticipantI guess I’m a criminal with a 9000 lb F550 without my camper!
But I’m pretty puny compared to a garbage truck or a Culligan
water softener delivery truck with many tons of tanks on board!
What I’m trying to say is, who would care? Some copper isn’t
gonna pull you over because you’re driving a F350 with a camper
on the back, is she?It’s good to be a n00b - so I can aspire to be just stoopid.
Monrovia, CA
- March 23, 2019 at 06:19 #29937
Jeff Sherman
ParticipantJohn,
The curb weight is the weight of the truck with all fluids and full tank of gas but with NO passengers and NO payload.
Go to page 38 of 41 of the 2019 Ford Super Duty brochure and look at your desired configuration. Subtract the payload from the GVWR and that will be the curb weight close to it. With a SRW gasser, most are below 8,000. Usually in the 7,000 lb range. - March 23, 2019 at 08:19 #29944
Jay
ParticipantFully loaded f350 diesel 4×4 srw crew cab with 35″ tires is 7950lbs.
- September 15, 2019 at 22:05 #34387
john.
ParticipantJohn,
The curb weight is the weight of the truck with all fluids and full tank of gas but with NO passengers and NO payload.
Go to page 38 of 41 of the 2019 Ford Super Duty brochure and look at your desired configuration. Subtract the payload from the GVWR and that will be the curb weight close to it. With a SRW gasser, most are below 8,000. Usually in the 7,000 lb range.cool – thanks. 🙂
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