Thanks for responding Mike. I know the rule-of-thumb that all the winch sales people use. I will not be driving through 2′ of mud or climbing over rocks like some off road enthusiasts take on just because the have a winch to pull them out. I am not going to be crazy and go where I know I shouldn’t. My wife and I like the solitude and we don’t typically travel with anyone else so my thoughts about a winch is just an insurance in case we get stuck and no one else is around to help. My question was has anyone used a 12K winch without issues? The 12K winches are available with synthetic rope which saves a lot of weight. With the bumper and a heavy winch on the front end will it affect the handling of the truck.